How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Why do liberals think it is okay to steal votes while the rest of us obey the law(s)?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Do people have to be a pastor to baptize?

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Is it true that all men want a woman who looks like an Instagram “model”?

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Why don't I want to talk to my girlfriend when she loves me a lot? I feel bored.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

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ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

What is it like to be a Christian in Iran?

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

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ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Who would win in this boxing matchup between these two, Dillian Whyte or Samuel Peter?

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

How do I get fit at home?

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

Why should the law care about what I do behind closed doors?

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I am like a fish out of water,

My blog is new. I need 10 article posts for my blog. How much should I pay for it?

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Delta Force selection is originally based on SAS selection, so why is there no brutal jungle phase for Delta Force? It seems like it's based only on the Brecon Beacons section.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Now here in this verse

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Is it okay for my husband to help other ladies without telling me?

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

CONCLUSION:

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

then who is there to know what happens without?

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

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Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Kabir (a weaver)

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Sain (a barber)

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

NOW…

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

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